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obama cutting to the heart of his decision to openly back marriage equality. been a pretty pivotal year in the long and emotional battle over same-sex unions and this day could be quite a pivotal day. because today the supreme court, the ultimate decider of rights and rules in america, is deciding whether it is finally time to take a stand on gender-based marriage law. and just how big a stand to take. the country, of course, is divided. right now 30 states have their own constitutional bans on same-sex marriage. but nine states plus the district of columbia allow men to marry men and women to marry women. that number grew by three alone just this month. those were voter referendums during the election. nationwide exit polls show slightly more voters than not say same-sex marriages should be legal. you see it there. 49% say yes. 46% say no. which in theory has absolutely no bearing essentially on anything that the high court decides, or does it? we may not actually even find out until monday whether the justices will decide to take the plunge or not into this latest series of cases, and
don't have to write a check on january 2nd. he'll have time, then, to introduce the obama tax cuts and basically dare the republican -- the 113th congress not to vote for him. >> when he puts out his plan, then you hear, chris, i was very intrigued by the statement that charles made on fox, that the obama offer is worse than what was offered to general lee at the end of the civil war. listen to this. >> it's not just a bad deal. this is really an insulting deal. what git near offered on the screen, robert e. lee was offered better deals and he lost the civil war. this is almost unheard of. mine, what do they expect? they obviously expect republicans to cave on everything. i think republicans ought to simply walk away. >> chris, i think with lincoln outdone, i think he could have used a better analogy. >> look, the funny thing is the end of that statement, which is, i keep saying, rush limbaugh keeps saying, walk away. walk away. if they walk away, all of the taxes go up. the delicious irony, i will note, is to have them sunset so the cost was lower than what it would be if therm pe
company in pennsylvania today to call on congress to extend tax cuts for the middle class. president obama playing a little hardball accusing republicans of playing politics at the expense of american families. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to for you republicans to hold tax cuts hostage because they don't want rates on upper folks to go up. >> john boehner scheduled a last minute news conference. fired back with this. >> increasing tax rates draws money away from our economy that needs to be invested in our economy to put the american people back to work. it's the wrong approach. >> as the rhetoric heats up, the clock continues to tick down. after today, there are just ten legislative days on the calendar. the house announced they will be recessing one day early next would he week. joining me now from the white house, white house correspondent kristen welker. what's the latest from 1600 pennsylvania? >> well, good afternoon, craig. as you can see the holiday decorations are going up here at the white house. but it doesn't seem like anyone is in the holiday
democratic senators are balking on this current is 35%. the obama offer contained no serious cuts, no serious reforms to entitlement programs and no serious proposals of tax reform this president had the gall to count savings more than one billion dollars from ending wars in iraq and afghanistan no one has proposed war spending over the next decade that includes cuts to domestic programs agreed to last year, fuzzy washington math. what this is obama's propose last year which received zero votes in the house or senate this is disguised as a so-called compromise offer. don't be fooled it is no such thing. the so-called offer was nothing less than a disgrace what he did yesterday with geithner. the proposal was as dishonest and misleading as date is long. the question is, how should the gop respond to this travesty? republicans should do several things. first, do what senator mcconnell did yesterday, laugh at the obama proposal. second, refuse to negotiate with obama, seriously. in other words, essentially republicans have gotta walk away, it is up to obama to make a serious proposal. instead of
1, the obama administration will raise taxes far more than just eliminating the bush tax cuts for the top brackets. the new healthcare law will raise taxes of its own. additional $318 billion over ten years. including a new 3.8% tax on investment income and reduced deductions for those of all incomes. >> this is not an incon quincable thing. you are -- incon consequencial thing. >> those affected most will the small businesses many of which pay taxes at the individual rate and get a double whammy with the simultaneous end of the bush tax cut and tax increases under obamacare. almost 60% increase in tax on investment. >> entrepreneurs with small businesses, certain number of workers now they will be facing a four or five, 10% point increase in the tax liabilities. that means they will have income to invest in their firm. >> for some small businesses it could be a hardship. for other small businesses. they are going to go doing what they are doing. >> in fact, it may be much cheaper for small businesses to pay a $2,000 fine, to not offer insurance and let the employs go on the t
. with real cuts. obama was supposed to gave speech where he would respond with a counter offer. what did he do? he gave a speech with ryan on the front row. he called the ryan proposal un-american, insulted him. offered nothing and ran on mediscare in the next 18 mont months. they expect the republicans will do this again? republicans will walk on this. i think they have leverage. yes, for congressional democrats it will help them in the future if the republicans absorb the blame because we will have a recession. obama is not running again unlike the congressional democrats. he is going to have a recession. 90% unemployment, 2 million more unemployed. second term that will be a ruin. that is not a good proposition if you are barack obama. >> bret: before you respond to that, a.b., there is one thing that speaker boehner talked about today, leverage wise. that is tying the debt ceiling limit to this entire deal. and the white house reacting. >> there is a lot of things i wanted in my life, but almost all of them had a price tag attached to them. if we talk about the debt limit, there will be
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. and they are waiting for fema to help for more than a month. >> i told president obama you told us you would cut the red tape. the middle class gets the royal finger. he said fema worked for me. fema ain't doing anything. >> steve: it a town hall that turned into a town brawl. ready to almost go over the edge? looks like you have a friend as well rick. >> as promised brian cashman and bobby valentine. bobby's first time and he wants to go face first. we'll see if that can happen. right now we'll go to break. "fox and friends" is back in two minutes. [ malannouncer ] it'that time of year again. time for cii price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. buy now. save later. a hybrid? most
. again, two years ago, president obama signed and extended what i call the bush obama tax cuts. i think we need to do that, for some certainty to the economy and talk about looking at some real spending cuts, as well. >> some are criticizing this and calling it a very aggressive plan that the president has pushed forth. in public comments like the one we heard from boehner, reid, both sides taking really hard stances. but some insiders saying that a deal is within reach and much of it is for show now. new jersey democratic congressman rob andrews told politico this. there's the public choreography, then there is the real choreography. it may be something you alluded to. to reach a deal it has to look like there was a lot of fighting before the deal was reached. what's your response to that? do you think that there is a lot of grandstanding going on here? and we're actually going to make the deadline that the president suggested, which is before christmas? >> there's always a lot of grandstanding in washington on both sides. this is my first term in congress. i think mosts americans are
of a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff by christmas. president obama says he would like congress to pass a bill even sooner to extend tax cuts for the middle class families. and he invited some of those middle class americans to the white house today to help make his case. >> i have got a pen. [ laughter ] i'm ready to sign it. [ applause ] so, my point here today is is to say let's approach this problem with the middle class in mind. the folks who are behind me and the millions of people all across the country who they represent. >> shepard: well, republicans are saying they need some spending cuts. that they will also have to be part of the deal. and they are accusing the president of campaigning instead of negotiating. >> i mean, every week he spends campaigning for his ideas is a week that we are not solving the problem. it's completely counter productive. the election is over. he won. congratulations. and we have got a hard deadline here, however, and it's still he he is still out on the campaign trail, kind of celebrating. >> shepard: if the president and congress cannot cu
obama believes in the clinton tax cuts, let them go back into affect for the entire country and see if the country believes they are good for america. >> the president is campaign acting like he received a anytime percent man date when he only received half. what impact is this having on the psyche of the gop. >> it is affecting the psyche of the president. he's act being like he did win a huge victory . he did win a substitute victory and what happened to the republicans is, they are fearful of all of these taxes going up they are trying to a bargain in good faith to give away something and then say if you will give us something and make us look good. don't humiliate us. the democrats are humiliating the republican party in making that offer . i think their own dignity and principles and beliefs, what republicans ought to say is, we think that extending the tax cuts pay roll and bush tax cuts is good for economy and america and consistent with our principles and blives and you are not going to put a gun to our head and testimony us to give up all of these things and we'll vote thes
have to rethink the idea this is obama's idea if we get the huge cut in defense that are unsupportable. >> they are bluffing that they don't care about going over the fiscal cliff. a bluff. it will send economy in a tail spin. >> i don't think so. the president is fine going over the cliff. if you look what he gets and the ability to play hero if the country went over the cliff, the president can remedy two problems that democrats faced for years. he becomes a huge tax cutter. he can restore the defense cut. i think the point that you are making are logical and correct, that is not how it plays out. perception is as much as anything else. you looking at a media eager to blame republicans on this. >> that's why i'm correcting them. >> you are correcting them. >> bret: we have an online show to talk more about this. >> i'm correct them even more. >> bret: you can correct them more in a much more relaxed atmosphere. tune in. next up, look at the front runners for yes, 2016. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] where do you hear that beat?] campbell's heal
obama has proposed $4 billion in spending cuts. possibly medicare savings at some point. that was in his budget he proposed but didn't get any support from even some democrats in the senate. but i don't know where the extra money comes from. what are your thoughts about the 400 billion that the president proposed? >> the 400 billion is a constant moving target. the president hasn't nailed down where this money is going to come from for sure. but remember what he told republicans last week? you make the decision on taxes for us and then we will talk about spending in january. it's his way or the highway. the president has done more negotiating a bookstore here in washington, and bite enact hostility virginia, that he is done up done up on the hill. he really wants to make a bargain for the american people, don't look for bargains for yourself. get up to the hill, cobble leaders to the white house. the president had one meeting and promised a meeting that never occurred. if the president was serious about this crisis, which everyone believes it is a crisis, then why isn't he leading? white
? we've just had an election. the people had a choice between mitt romney and president obama who said let's have a balanced plan, and let's give tax cuts to the middle class. what is he talking about? this is about tax cuts. the president is saying, renew the payroll tax cut. give tax cuts to every dollar earned up to $250,000. i don't know what they're thinking, thomas. but obviously, they are putting it all on the line for the koch brothers and sheldon adelson who earn billions of dollars. they're selfish. and there's a group called patriotic millionaires who are saying please, please, tax us fairly. and here's the point. the president is saying to the millionaires and billionaires, we're just taking you back to the tax rates that you had when bill clinton was president. and i would like to remind everybody, we had the greatest prosperity then when everyone paid their fair share. 23 million new jobs. and why is it? because the middle class had the money to spend out there, to stimulate this economy. it's a consumer-driven economy. about 70% of the economy is consumer driven. and the
on to treatment by 2015. but we need to move forward to steal a slogan from president obama and need to get past these ridiculous budget cuts that right now are frankly just targeting only poor people, poor people with aids around the country and around the world. >> we know that nudity was a way to get attention for a very important topic and good to speak with you this morning. >> thank you so much. i want to give a shout out for stratogizing the idea of nudity. thank you so much. happy birthday to my son, flynn robert walker. >> happy birthday. jennifer flynn, thank you so much. >>> well, after today, there will be a star missing from the galaxy. today's mls final will mark the end of an era for professional soccer in the u.s. we'll have all the details. side by side so you get the same coverage, often for less. that's one smart board. what else does it do, reverse gravity? [ laughs ] [ laughs ] [ whooshing ] tell me about it. why am i not going anywhere? you don't believe hard enough. a smarter way to shop around. now that's progressive. call or click today. [ grunting ] who have used androg
the so-called fiscal cliff. congressional republicans firing back now amid claims by president obama that some g.o.p. lawmakers are holding middle class tax cuts hostage. and senator orrin hatch accusing the president of pulling a bait and switch. listen. >> the the president said he wants a so-called balanced approach to solve this crisis, but what he proposed this week was a classic bait and switch on the american people, a tax increase double the size of what he campaigned on. billions of dollars in this stimulus spending and unlimited unchecked authority to borrow from the chinese. maybe i missed it, but i don't believe him asking for any of that during the presidential campai campaign. >> jamie: well, the developments are wii by the hour and our steve centanni is covering all of them. good to see you. >> you, too, jamie. one month until the fiscal cliff and appears to be little movement, but a lot of talk back and forth and the president used a campaign style appearance to appeal directly to the american people and pushed for immediate action to extend bush era tax cuts for ever
of president obama's plan to cut fiscal spending, invite someone for lunch and have us pick up the tab. >> we're all picking up the tab for that lunch. >> that's right. >>> "early start" continues right now. >> suddenly rich. so far we know of two winning tickets for the record-breaking powerball jackpot. >> lunch date, mitt romney meeting with president obama. >> and only in new york. a zebra hot on the heels of a pony in new york city. >> never thought about hot on the heels of a pony. okay. >> i'm christine romans. >> i'm zoraida sambolin. >> in egypt the u.s. embassy in cairo is closed. no one is being allowed in or out of the embassy now. embassy officials say the entrance is blocked by protesters as clashes erupt nearby. massive demonstrations against president morsy threatened the new young government after a degree last week extending his powers to an e uneasy level for some egyptians. americans in cairo going to the embassy for business, please don't. no one is going in or out of the embassy in cairo. >> and finding a way to steer clear of the fiscal cliff. the chief fiscal cliff neg
obama and think it should be spending cuts. 41 percent of the people who said yes, mr. president, i want you to have a second term that they think it is the most important thing to do to have spending cuts which doesn't appear to be part of the plans he put forward. >> brian: couple of things before we go to a break. i think david brooks is a conservative times, they are going to have to raise rates. 35-39 . i think if the democrats want to give this plenty there for them to mesh theirr beliefs into this. i think this is something you negotiate off of and septemberor ken conrad. get in helicopters and fly to camp david and hammer it out over the weekend . negotiate it. >> gretchen: they did it two -- we spent taxpayer money for simpson-bowls and nothing happened . so here we go again. >> steve: perhaps they will layy the ground work for the fiscal cliff that is loomming in three weekings. tick, tick. >> gretchen: unless anyone has a phone stuck in their lining. i am okay. >> brian: i am okay. >> steve: oh, viseen. no problem. >> gretchen: i have two scissors. exclusive report in the new
obama and really american people don't want to see middle class americans pay additional 2000 in taxes n which is what will happen in addition to cuts to programs . we want to cut and the american people want to see cut. there is it a few things. first more americans would blame the republicans and not president obama if we went off of the fiscal cliff. that is a motivation. >> brian: yeah. >> gretchen: ron, why do they feel that way? >> brian:ip totally agree with you. looking at polls and say republicans will get blamed and so why not runuss off of the cliff. >> republicans should have their own plan. the majority of americans in exit polls have said we should balance and ask the wealthiest to pay more. >> gretchen: wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. ron. that's not true. nothing is going to be balanced with talks that i heard about. >> brian: absolutely not. >> the only pending cuts is for war spending and stan tan and iraq. >> that is six billion in health care. >> we need more to save our generation and we shouldn't tax people give our generation jobs. can i please talk about how our gen
of across the board tax increases for everyone, coupled with cuts in spending like defense, education, health care, and housing assistance. let's go live to our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin with the very latest. jessica? >> reporter: president obama has now personally turned down speaker boehner's opening offer to avert the fiscal cliff. he did it in a tv interview. what does president obama think of speaker boehner's proposal to avert the fiscal cliff? >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about $800 billion worth of revenues but says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> reporter: he won't agree to eliminate a tax deduction for contributions to charity. >> every hospital and university and nonfor profit agency across the country would find themselves on the verge of collapse. so that's not a realistic option. >> reporter: but the president didn't say all this to speaker boehner. he said it in an interview on bloomberg tv. the last time the two men spoke was almost a wee
was flabbergasted. i looked at him, i says, you can't be serious. >> reporter: president obama wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes on the rich, $400 billion in cuts to entitlement programs, such as medicare, and $50 billion in stimulus spending. >> the president and the white house have had three weeks and this is the best we've got?! >> reporter: mitch mcconnell laughed at them last week. now geithner says if they don't like the president's plan, the republicans should present their own ideas. >> we can't try to figure out what works for them. they have to tell us. >> reporter: but secretary geithner made it clear, there will be no deal that does not include a tax hike on the wealthy. >> there's not going to be an agreement without rates going up. >> reporter: no formal negotiations are on the schedule here. and many believe it will take a week for the real work toward a solution to get under way. susan mcginnis, cbs news, washington. >>> how minority leader nancy pelosi says she will try to force a vote today on a senate- passed bill that democrats support but it is doubtful she will get republican
it in the fact that president obama's out there campaigning instead of sitting down with john boehner, running around pushing for a bill to increase -- extend just the middle class tax cuts which he knows republicans will never do. you can see it in the fact that 33 senate democrats signed this letter which says, quote, we will oppose including social security cuts for current or future pen fisheries in any -- beneficiaries at any time. that's signed by harry reid. senator durbin giving a speech saying no touching medicare or medicaid in any year end package. so, basically, the democratic position is no changes to social security, no changes to medicare, no changes to medicaid, yet the mainstream media all you hear is three words: grover, grover, grover. all you hear is about republican intransigence on taxes. where are the stories about democratic intransigence on entitlements? it seems to me that what they want to do is go off the fiscal cliff, pocket the increase on the wealthy, the tax increase on the wealthy, and blame republicans for the middle class tax increases. and if that's what the
middle income tax cut to the floor. >> reporter: later on today president obama will say that any deal reached in congress must include increased tax rates on the wealthiest americans. he will say that at a factory in hatfield, pennsylvania, where the company connects, makes tinker toys. that is company the white house picked for today's event because they rely on the middle class consumers who would be affected if we go off the fiscal cliff. martha. martha: that will be a major sticking point it sounds like. peter, thank you very much. bill: so what happens if your taxes or to your taxes if lawmakers don't strike a deal? the tax policy center says that 90% of the americans would see a tax hike next year in 2013. it says 121 million americans will be paying more in payroll taxes, and families making between 40 and $65,000 a year, will pay an extra $2,000 to the government. that starts in 2013. martha: some say that they're concerned that what happens in europe could also happen here down the road. look at europe's economy down the road. 11.7% unemployment. that is another record high i
are at a stand still. president barack obama says republicans must agree to preserve a middle class tax cut as the first part of any deal and he likened republicans to scrooge today, while touring a pennsylvania toy factory. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family, everybody here, you'll see your taxes go up on january 1st. i mean, i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> the president's proposal calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue. $50 billion for new stimulus spending. and about $400 billion in entitlement cuts. republicans say the president's opening bid is nothing but a political stunt. so where does that leave us? after months of hearing about the fiscal cliff, there are no signs of a compromise plan. let's bring in senior congressional correspondent miss dana bash. dana? republicans say president obama's opening offer is, you know, all take and no give here. do they feel like the president is
, no spending cuts and no plans to save entitlements. with president obama going to pennsylvania today, the house republican whip, kevin mccarthy's office put out a video profiling a small business nearby in pennsylvania that would get hurt by a tax hike. >> i'm jerry gorsky from an engineering company. however good or bad we do is my income. this notion of $250,000 being top 2% or the wealthy people in america ignores the way most small businesses work in america. >> reporter: i mentioned president obama is going out on the trail, if you will in pennsylvania to sell his arguments. one would expect we would hear some sort of response from speaker john boehner after that. jon. jon: what are the democrats saying? i mean about these g.o.p. complaints? what is your response? >> reporter: they are saying republicans if you don't like the president's plan, where is your own plan? they are asking for specifics on revenue in terms of tax revenue. they are also asking for specifics on what republicans want to do to entitlements. house democratic leader nancy pelosi is not talking about more spe
stands at $16 trillion. it was $10.6 trillion when president obama first took office and it has increased roughly 50% over the course of his first term. now president obama is insisting that any deal on this fiscal cliff which has automatic tax hikes and spending cuts as of january one, they are trying to avert that. he says any deal on this must include an end to the debt ceiling all together. he wants complete power to raise the country's limit by himself. he doesn't want to have to get congressional approval. that is a demand stirring strong response from republicans today. >> the on way we ever cut spending is by using the debate over the debt limit to do it. now the president wants to remove that spur to cut all together. of course, it gets in the way of his spending plans. i can assure you it one happen. the american people want washington to get spending under control and the debt limit is the best tool we have to make the president take that demand seriously. the american people want us to fight to cut spending. it's a fight they deserve and a fight we are happy to have. >> joinin
. you remember wimpy, popeye's friend, i'll gladly pay you tuesday for a hamburger today, and obama would gladly agree to spending cuts later for tax increases now. republicans have been rolling over on these kinds of deals since as long as i've been able to remember. since i was in garanimals with reagan and tip o'neill and the democrats then were promising spending cuts that never came, through george bush and george mitchell who came away from a similar deal with a big smirk on his face and no spending cuts. i think it's about time republicans stop rolling over and falling for these deals. please, because why do we have a republican party if they don't say no? >> steve: sure. and we've been talking about how the atmosphere on capitol hill officially with the big negotiators has been kind of gloomy. politico, the lefty blog, says that inside the talks with the people who are doing a lot of talks, contours of a deal including the size of tax hikes and spending cuts, it will contain are starting to take shape. so it does sound like even though both sides are still strident in what t
.5% or so top rate that president obama wants to return to which we paid under clinton is very, very popular. republicans should ought not fall on that sword. the democrats are ed e ready to endorse 98% of the hated bush tax cuts. i would call that a win and toss the other 2% overboard. >> there's also a lot of talk here in washington, has been for a couple weeks about false confidence. the false confidence that happened at the end of the election there. the mitt romney people pretty much told a lot of us they were confident it was going to be a long night and that they would win. i want to read you something from the new republic about team romney's internal polling. says the biggest flaw in their polling was the failure to predict the demographic composition of the electorate. the people who showed up to vote on november 6 were younger and less white than team romney anticipated and far more democratic as a result. so i want to ask you, erick, is this sort of a misunderstanding generally that republicans have to address the next time they go into an election about who the voters are going
the next decade the proposal includes cuts from programs like medicare and pulsating star tax reform. in a statement white house official said the plan is a fair and balanced as the middle class with the bill. president obama has said any deal must raise taxes on the wealthy. without a compromise automatic tax hikes and spending cuts are scheduled to take affect game refers. >> official have put billions of dollars into jumpstart and repairs to make a livable after superstar on sandy left a daunting toll of damage in the nation's largest city. the nyse rabbit ears program aims to get people back into their own homes not tipperary housing. federal and city officials see it as an innovative answer to this challenge of the housing dollars of storm victims. the program since contractors to restore power, he, and other essential free of charge. contractors have done the initial assessment of about 7000 homes in new york city and 2000 homes for similar initiative on long island. so far only about 400 homes had been completed. >> mitt romney has a job again he is returning to the board of d
, the consequences of the fiscal cliff are real. from a politicaler speck tiff, president obama is holding all the cards here. if he does nothing, the push area tax cuts expire, raising revenue. spending cuts will bring down the debt and possibly help secure social security and medicare. apparently, the president this is that he is making an offer republicans can't refuse. joining me at table is msnbc contributor, joy reid. cnbc contributor, dan dicker and laura flanders, the host and founder of grittv.org. thanks to all of you for being here. >>> is this, in fact, a new president obama. is the kind of negotiating tactics we are seeing now something that wasn't happening in the first term? >> i want to see that seventh head. i'm really looking forward to that. i love this whole don core leone thing. i know this was one of those things. apparently, they got in touch with a dog food factory. i will put that one aside. >> i don't think anything the administration is doing this time is going to get them on that case. i do think this represent pigs after the last election in the first term, there w
that seem to echo the same old position. this on the heels of president obama holding a campaign-style event in suburban philadelphia to sell his solution. he said if congress does not extend the bush tax cuts for the middle class, everyone's taxes will go up january 1st. >> i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> meanwhile house speaker john boehner says the latest proposal from the white house would cripple the economy. the plan calls for a boost in revenue by $1.6 trillion over the next decade. >> they want to have this extra spending that's actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. i mean it's, it's -- not a serious proposal. so right now we're almost nowhere. >> >> mike viqueira joins us live from the white house. where is almost nowhere? >> it's inside the beltway and it's business as usual. it's also december 1st, alex, and we have exactly one month now to avert the fiscal cliff and avert what everybody agrees would be economic catastrophe. of course that combination of $
. >> if the bush tax cuts are repealed and everyone's taxes go up, i promise you republicans will be blamed for it. >> so are you saying, then, for pr purposes that they should give into obama on the tax rate in. >> not exactly. well, yeah, i guess i am. >> ka pit late to obama who is -- we don't have a revenue problem, ann. >> we lost the election, shawn. >> i can't believe i'm saying this, but ann coultter is right. they lost. the question may now be when, not if, the republicans will cave on taxes. joining me now is dana milbank, columnist for "the washington post." he's writing about the republicans waving tax hikes and cynthia tucker and visiting professor of journalism at the university of georgia. thanks to both of you for being here tonight. >> hi, reverend. >> good to be here, reverend. >> dana, are republicans really ready to cave? >> well, reverend, first of all, terrific particular to see you and ann coulter on the same page. they've caved already. they have said, we're going to agree to an $800 billion tax increase. it's entirely possible that they are going to go off the cliff any wa
this administration, under president obama. and that has to be a part of this. that is where the republicans are insisting that we have a spending cuts and entitlement reforms that will got america on the right track moving forward. jenna: congresswoman, such a big topic. we only brushed the surface of it. we look forward to having you back to talk more about it. thank you so much. >> thank you. jon: right now a potentially explosive new development in the trayvon martin shooting case. lawyers for george zimmerman, releasing this photo. it shows the accused shooter with a bloody nose taken on the night of the deadly shooting. zimmerman as you might recall faces second-degree murder charges in the death of this man, 17-year-old trayvon martin. zimmerman claims he shot the teen in self-defense during a violent struggle and martin inflicted the bloody nose. does this change the arc of this case? let's talk about it with lose we will, fox news analyst and crystal panich a criminal defense attorney. the shooting happened and that photo was taken february 26th, 2012. >> right. jon: apparently the
over that so-called fiscal cliff. tax hikes and spending cuts kick in if no agreement is reached between the house and republicans on how to close the budget gap. it has been more than two weeks since president obama invited the major players to the white house to discuss the situation. as of this morning, no new talks are scheduled. brianna keilar joins us. so many republicans say they are pessimistic about a deal happening in time to avert this fiscal cliff. some say it's for political reasons. what can you tell us? >> it may all be for political reasons. that's no surprise in washington. as you can seen through dealmaking not just on this but things in the past couple of years between the white house and congress, there is almost this rhythm that has evolved. both sides are pointing to the other for an impasse. republicans like senator lindeyy graham just slamming the white house and tim geithner for a plan he laid out on behalf of the administration, laying out about $1.6 trillion in new revenues coupled with only about $400 billion in medicare cuts. listen to what graham sai
will you betray? how many people press president obama and say how much entitlement reform are you putting on the table. megyn: he he's saying there is $400 billion worth of spending cuts we can discuss later if you first give me the tax hikes. what cut are they? we'll see the last budget i proposed that didn't get any democratic support in the senate. he can't get it passed by the democrats. clearly the republicans aren't going to stein on board. >> from an checkpoint of right's disingenuous. the president will win the public relations war by it will be an unmitigated disaster for the poorest people in this country. that initial salvo people are saying is typical negotiations. if this was november 2011 i would say okay. we are talking 30 days from now and dramatic tax increases. we are talking about the defense spending cuts and again listen, presidents have been fooled by this. ronald reagan was fooled by it. megyn: ronald reagan agreed to i'll do a tax hike now and you give me the spending cuts later and he never got the spending cuts. >> maybe the republicans will lose the republic rel
a competitive tax system and i think our slow going economy under president obama says we don't. >> the new york times though makes a mention of, just a sort of a passing mention in this massive article, by the way, about the need to cut spending like one or two sentences about the need-- >> and i think that milton freedman brought us, that spending is really the tax bill. it's just delayed. so, every toll the government spends eventually they're going to have to take it from someone, either in taxes or in inflation, so, this is why you're seeing a lack of business investment is because this massive spending and huge debt tells every business owner, every investor, big tax are are coming to eventually pay for this. >> what was the point of the piece? i know there's hand wringing out there, maybe the folks on the right say under obama our taxes have gone up and we may more in taxes than we've ever paid and attempt to say, we're not-- >> this is long-term by the president and his allies to create an intellectual justification to raise taxes and in this case, they use the reagan years and often wen
might be stuck. a senior administration official told us that president obama and john boehner had a phone wallace night and politico was reporting that the phone call was curt. they said on the call john boehner told the president to leave the tax cuts for the rich alone. the president says he doesn't want to do that. he's going to stick with his plan to raise $1.6 billion in revenue and if republicans have something better they should be specific now. eric cantor said republicans are already going further than they did in the same spot in 2010. >> we have done our part. we have put revenues on the table, something we didn't do two years ago during the debt ceiling negotiations. >> we've seen some positive developments in the last several weeks, in terms of what republicans have been saying about the need for revenue as part of a balanced package. the president will continue to make the case that that is essential. >> reporter: so both sides saying revenue is on the table, now the fight is obviously to figure out where it's going to come from, how the government is going to make m
. republicans are willing to cut -- >> reporter: republicans are willing to cut loopholes. here's what john boehner said. >> the revenues being put on the table are gonna come from guess who? the rich. >> reporter: republicans say it's clear to them that president obama is not serious about negotiating. reporting live from washington, d.c., alison burns, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 8:17. we asked some people in the bay area whether they think the president and congress will reach an agreement on the fiscal cliff by the end of the year. >> they both have this position that they are not willing to back down from. i don't think they will reach it. >> i'm hoping and praying that they do come together. >> i think this is all kind of a shadow dance that's going on and i'm not sure exactly what's going on in the background. but i think the whole fiscal cliff is wildly exaggerated. >> a pew washington post poll shows more americans think the president and congress will not come to an agreement on how to avoid the fiscal cliff by the end of the year. 49% to 40%. >>> although the nhl season is still on
a plan that includes $1.6 trillion in new taxes and $400 billion in spending cuts. it is essentially the budget proposal from last year, a plan republicans called a nonstarter. you can expect president obama to take more trips like the one he is making today to try to move the needle on these negotiations. willie? >> kristen welker at the white house. david gregory, moderator of "meet the press." good morning. >> good morning. >> if looking for reason to be optimistic a deal will be done, yesterday was not your day. by most accounts, treasury secretary tim geithner laughed off capitol hill literally by mitch mcconnell, john boehner says the white house offer is not serious. is this a breakdown in negotiation or the first steps in what will be a month of negotiation? >> the worst thing to watch on capitol hill is the progress of the negotiations because it is going to be a lot of huffing and puffing on both sides, posturing. the white house feels the president is in a very strong position to play the high cards in terms of tax increases, that's what he wants, that's what the american
, president obama and house speaker john boehner finally speaking to each other by phone yesterday. there's still no sign of progress or future talks with 26 days remaining until massive tax increases and spending cuts begin. >>> a naked protest at san francisco city hall. the nudists are protesting an ordinance that would force them to cover up in public, starting next year. the activists say the law would violate their civil rights as nudists, the ordinance was sponsored by a local supervisor who says his constituents were tired of seeing a group of naked men every day. >>> a $4.1 million modernization project at los angeles international airport wouldn't be complete without a caviar bar, along with 18 new state of the art boarding gates, the airport is adding 50 premiere luxury and dining outlets. the airport is adding a caviar and champagne bar. >> really? >> why, you ask? one of the chief developers explains the way you capture the flavor of a city is through its food. hello! >> top 1%. >>> if you're away from your television right now, running around the house, getting ready for wor
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